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 Post subject: What Beth's Post Has Done for Me
PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:18 am 
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Every since I read the truth about Bingo Vega's (cheating , unscrupulous, dirty, fraudulent, no good ,low down, stealing ,deceitful, lying, tactics) online bingo (ALL SITES ) are suspicious to me !! It was one thing to WONDER and discuss with my friend (yocin) who were the house players and if game was rigged. But after reading Beth's C O N F E S S I O N We don't have to wonder any longer. Because she let the cat out of the bag. The jig is up. You have been caught. Wish we could arrest you all. Or give you 20,no 30 or more lashes!!!! What gives these people the right to do this ? Who do they think they are to con us this way ? I know one thing that is true ...What comes around goes around and sometimes the payback is much harsher than the first blow! So I take back the lashes I wished I could give those who cheated and conned and scammed their good customers ! Because I know payback is a ..... well you know.
I hardly play bingo anywhere now because Everywhere I go I think about what happened at Vega and I refuse to be fooled again. I watch these sites ...I take note of winners, of who is in chat room, how many times certain people win, how many times I have 1tg and twenty balls are called and I still don't win because a person who has been winning ALL THE BIG POTS suddenly wins. Surprise !!!! Then I go in chat room and nobody knows the player EXCEPT the chat host... So thanks Beth . You enlightened us but you have also ruined a great stress reliever for me and I am sure many others !


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 Post subject: Re: What Beth's Post Has Done for Me
PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:08 pm 
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Duke could not of said it better, I remember Vega use to post a players had won all this big money. I was one , Here to find out they were adding all the money total in all the time they played. WEll guess what they are till doing it . look at their winners they claimed won this amount in Feb.


Alias Amount $
DonnieJ 254,403.28
cooky 162,430.70
junk1311 157,740.58
Rumors 112,199.78
aurora58 83,925.15
josieg626 79,760.55
rosesarered1972 77,664.80
skippy47 75,283.95
bicharge 68,034.71
mmkit 67,966.00

Give me a break!! we don't trust anything you say or do. You owe us money. Pay us some of the money the house players got. They should have enough by now. I too stopped playing online bingo because of Beth. There is a site I thought has a good name untill they listed winners of a special hearts game. Some had pictures next to their name and the ones who didn't were ones I never saw in chat. Those players always won big in slots. I won 5,000 once and was told in order to get paid I had to send in a updated picture with a story. So why didn't they have pictures aside of their names. ?
Could that mean more house players at other sites as well. I will save my money and build up my own jackpot.

Sick of cheating sites.

BingoGirl


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 Post subject: Re: What Beth's Post Has Done for Me
PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:01 am 
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After reading Beth's post all I see is red. I believe some type of legal action needs to be administered here , when I think of all the hard earned money cheated out of unsuspecting players. These people deserve their monies back because the games were never fair !


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 Post subject: Re: What Beth's Post Has Done for Me
PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:39 pm 
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I agree with bingoplayer , they have got away with cheating us all these years. I am beginning to think no one really cares if sites cheat or not, nothing is bebing done with Vega, the site is still running. MAKES ME SICK,Mr Fredrick sits behind his desk laughing while he counts our money. He is not out of the country, speak up Chris and Fredrick


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 Post subject: Re: What Beth's Post Has Done for Me
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:33 pm 
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I emailed fredrik@bigtimerevevnue.com but he now has blocked my email address so that fredrik@bigtimerevevnue.comtells me he has no intentions of changing. I think we all need to email him atfredrik@bigtimerevevnue.com and let him know what we think of him and his cheating site.

Bingo girl


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 Post subject: Re: What Beth's Post Has Done for Me
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:39 pm 
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I have not posted here in a few years, but I use to play at Vega ALOT. My alias was LHofsdal, it is LHofsdal for every bingo place. When I started playing there everything was on the up and up. The CM's were friendly, and always paying attention to the chat room. Heck, they would even ask me how my goat Greta was doing. It was a big joke, I was the only one in the neighborhood that had a goat. Everyone thought it was funny, and it was.

Then I started noticing that this player WilliamYMichelle joined. Okay you know the deal, they always win quite a bit, they are newbies. But this woman won just about every other game. And this was going on for months. So I stopped playing there. Then out of the blue I get an e-mail asking me to come back. So I figured what the heck, went back. Not only were the pots so much smaller, but everyone and I mean everyone in chat was saying how the same people would win time and time again. It was obvious something was not right. So I just quietly left and that was over 2 or 3 years ago.

Now I read this, and I remember Beth and Barb. I truely believe they are good people, and I am sure they needed the job, and I respect that they came here and posted everything. I still think that even this new management team is accountable, because Mike Yates is still employed with them. Until he is fired or quits, this bingo site should not be trusted.

LHofsdal


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 Post subject: Re: What Beth's Post Has Done for Me
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:20 pm 
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Hi Holsdal, You are so right about Mike, he needs to get replaced but for some reason Vega is still being backed up even with Mike Yates . I will not play there till they pay us back the money they stoled.,,BingoGirl


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 Post subject: Re: What Beth's Post Has Done for Me
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:53 am 
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I also have to comment on Beth's action. It is good she saw the erorrs of her ways and came forth but I do not buy her sob story of having to work there. I know if I worked in a place and they asked me to do something illegal and that I knew in my heart was wrong...to hurt people like that and help someone steal from them...where was her conscious? I could not have done it and would have quit as soon as I realized people were being cheated and taken advantage of. I probably would have also notified authorities. I believe she only came forward because they did something to her otherwise she would have continued being dirty and rotten right along with them.


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 Post subject: Re: What Beth's Post Has Done for Me
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:40 pm 
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Beth enjoyed her job, she loved being rude to everyone and closing accounts and closing and reopening chats just to mess with players. She is just as guilty as Mike and the whole crew at Vega.


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 Post subject: Re: What Beth's Post Has Done for Me
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:49 pm 
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Thank you Duke, BingoGirl, bingoplayer and LHofsdal for keeping this issue alive =D> I have been involved with some behind the scenes negotiations with Vega over this cheating players issue with a third party. That is why you have not heard from me. Well a lot of time has passed and this thing is still dragging out and in the meantime Vega is perhaps still involved in robbing all you players blind.

Player have a good reason to be mad as hell about how Mike Yates fixed all them Tournaments and had you all playing against prop (fake accounts) that Mike Yates had certain people create.

I do have new information about Mike Yates that will make you even madder. I was told by a reliable source that Mike has been rigging games and using prop accounts since prior to 2005. This is a greater time period than Beth’s evidence covered. It stands to reason that he must have been cheating his players long before Beth discovered what was going on and documented it for us. It took some effort but I was able to uncover more facts about how far back Mike Yates was involved in this fraudulent activity.

All players should be outraged about BingoVega’s cheating policies. It’s been 3 months since Beth broke this story to all of you. The issue received lots of attention and comments. But like all issues that are not fueled, the topic goes dormant and I’m sure Bingo Vega breathed a sigh of relief.

Like I said earlier, I did refrain from posting on this because it was involved in third party negotiations. I applaud the efforts the GPWA has taken to resolve the Vega Issue, But in my opinion, their efforts will prove to be fruitless.

The one big obstacle that stands in the way of any resolution is the fact that the Yates Family owns Bingo Vega, Bigtime Bingo, Bingo Palace and Online Bingo. As long as Mike Yates is involved in any gaming site, I can’t see the players getting an honest game at any of his sites. Of course this is based on his past performance record. I don’t see mike Yates retiring form Online Bingo any time soon. So there is the dilemma! Would you feel safe to play at any site the Yates Family controls?

For the last 7+ years Mike Yates has been using Prop Accounts and Fixing Tournaments. You can be assures that if a game had 30 players, 15 - 20 0f them players were not real. The amount of Money stolen from players is staggering.

So where do we go from here! This topic needs to be heated up big time! I have been working on a campaign that will bring a lot of attention to this issue. I have a family outing planned from April 3 - April 9, so it will not be until April 10th that I will be able to focus all my attention on this.

Mark you calendars and be sure to check back here on that date. Our task will be to unite the players and put an end to Bingo Vega! Thank you all for your help.




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 Post subject: Re: What Beth's Post Has Done for Me
PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:48 pm 
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Thank you for keeping us updated. At least someone cares about Vega cheating. You do not know how pissed I am and can't beleive anyone would still play there. Speaking for myself, I will do anything I can to help you. I want them shut down.

Will be checking back,
Have a nice Easter,

Bingogirl


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 Post subject: Re: What Beth's Post Has Done for Me
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:31 pm 
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Happy Easter to you also and all the members of BPU. You have a right to be pissed! We need to bring the whole membership up to speed as to what Vega has been up too! Bingo Vega does need to close. See you all April 10th.


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 Post subject: Re: What Beth's Post Has Done for Me
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:06 pm 
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I will be working on spreading the word to players not to play at Vega and let them know they have houseplayers, I am still in contact with all my friends I played bingo with at Vega. Talk to you April 10th :(


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 Post subject: Re: What Beth's Post Has Done for Me
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:22 pm 
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Well Bingovega emailed me today letting me know they had closed my account because they claim on my last cash out I did not meet the wager requirements. No one would have been able to wager 12 k requirements. Plus they since then lowered their requirements because they were higher than any site on the internet. They also told me they were going to give me back my last 3 deposits. Do they think that is really going to cover what I lost in my cash out and what I lost when all the house players won our money because the games were all set up to have the house players win... all fake players.They are still using house players because it is like a drug user, They can not quit.
Players keep your money and build your own jackpot with the money you will save because you will not win a jack pot at Vega


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 Post subject: Re: What Beth's Post Has Done for Me
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:29 pm 
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Bingo Girl I quit playing bingo a long time ago because I felt something was wrong. The last place I played at was gonebingo.com and then I started noticing that everytime we would have $1000 games usually on the weekends and the same person would win and I mean back to back practically all night, every night. The player username was some long number if I recall correctly and checked this out, the player never talked or responded to other players and the cm's would always defend them when other players started to complain. I knew right then that some cheating was going on and I stopped depositing there and never looked back. I also believe that all these online sites whether casinos or bingos have the power to cheat players in some form or fashion, when it's convenient for them.


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