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 Post subject: RV BINGO AND PLAYTIME BINGO Same old story same old winners
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:10 am 
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Hi yall
When I first started playing at RV it was a little while before I caught on that Playtime and RV were connected sites.... By this I mean that they are more than sister sites they are more like siamese twins...

When a game is played at rv same game being played at playtime!!!

So when I see the winner on rv its same person on playtime. Now I know its not polite to single out folks but ANYONE who plays or has played these sites KNOW that you can DEPEND on seeing jenniebuck and auntiepiggy as DAILY MULTIPLE winners !!! These two are the top winners but there are about 4 more names that APPEAR EVERYDAY as winners of multiple games !!!!

AND the sad thing is that when they win other roomies CONGRATULATE THEM ....

Ok now lucky is lucky .....BUT NO ONE IS AS LUCKY AS THESE PLAYERS

ARE ....
AND THIS IS E V E R Y S I N G L E D A Y

Now what do you think of this?



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 Post subject: NOT Even 24 hrs have goneby WHEN
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:57 am 
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O MY GOODNESS YALL

It has not even been 24 hrs since I posted the following....


KNOW that you can DEPEND on seeing jenniebuck and auntiepiggy as DAILY MULTIPLE winners !!!



AND guess what ! ! !

THIS MORNING good ole girl "JEANNIEBUCK won A HUGE JACKPOT

Y E T A G A I N


YES SIR FOLKS at 8:37 am est the buck failed to pass she won

$5,374.75 and before MANY OTHER AMOUNTS .



L U C K Y ? OH HELL NO THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS LUCK GOING ON HERE NO WAY SHOULD ANY 1 PERSON WIN ALL THE TIME AND EVERY DAMN DAY .

ITS just not possible for these games to be on the up and up.

WAY TO GO MY A$$.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:00 am 
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so maybe she is the new STONELADY ??


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 Post subject: stony strikes again?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:16 pm 
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I think I remember a post somewhere in BPU threads where Jeanniebuck denies being a houseplayer for a particular site because she won so much and so often.

There is NO such thing as continual and consistent luck without a break..When that happens it is called ...A PLAN!

People can wander in here or anywhere and deny being a housie or a site bot, but when you see the evidence over and over that indicates some truth to the housie allegations or some wild streak of luck that extends from year to year and even at different sites, time to call a spade a spade...at least in your own mind, and get the hell out of the site where a STONELADY may exist.
AS long as you continue to participate, you are assisting the site to enable such players. Some sites thrive and do quite well with a stockpile of names to draw up as houseplayers when needed, and they depend on the depositing player to sit idly by with their wtg's and silence for fear of getting disabled accounts. It is a madness that is perpetuated by the player that allows themselves to be used and abused by sites.
It does no good complaining when your sitting in a site every day.actively playing and becoming more and more disgusted...because they dont give a damn. What will make them give a damn is for you to get the hell out of there, tell everyone else about their suspicious winners as a way of warning.
But for Gods sake, stop feeding these stinking sites with your presence and cash! Tell them to go to hell with their housies and player abuse!

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 Post subject: winner
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:11 pm 
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Duke,
I too had the pleasure of facingoff with jeannebuck.
Yes there is a post about it and it is true. Only it was on a different site that I won't mention because of ill feelings.
She wins big everywhere she plays. Ask why she never chats?
Hey better yet ask her how she is doing, she was so ill that she couldn't chat but could play.
Oh well, my advice would to get the hell outta there.
Before she gets all your money. Of course she won't the site will as she plays for them.
OOPs there I go again.
have a great day and good luck in the games.
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 Post subject: Pass jeannie the buck?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:49 pm 
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Hi leecesgramma


I don't deposit at there anymore...I have FINALLY learned my lesson !!!!

I do however play their FREE games from time to time ...

Hell I have even won some ....



Duke


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 Post subject: winners
PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:28 pm 
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As I was surfing around the net at review sites and checking out archives, it all came back to me about seeing the names of winners over and over. Somehow the names of consistent winners never leaves the foremost part of the brain.
And there it was..jeanniebuck..in one site after another. And my old pal (not) luvmypup..another winner of epic proportions. I have seen jeanniebucks name as the winner of thousands at many sites. You decide..as I have what is going on.

When you see the same people win at a site on a never ending streak, their names become forged in your brain..so when you see it at a site again, the warning bell sounds...at least it does for me.
Myself... I would not even grace the free room at a site where I had suspicions they were less than honest, and definitly not if I had proof. They can bulk up their data base with some other "unaware" player.

It is hard to leave a site that you have played at a long time and even trusted. It becomes a habit or an addiction and one has to taper off! LOL

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:05 am 
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Ya know if you think about it, there IS a fix to this problem. This is not something we came to know about overnight so it won't go away overnight either.

When one of these famous "wins everywhere and TOO dang often" players name shows up as the winner in a game you are playing, reduce your cards to the minimum amount you need to win chat bucks (if you are playing for them) and continue to play. Or say in chat "That is my cue, bbl".. no more or no less.

Eventually others will follow your lead and do the same. That SHOULD make the site take notice and do what they have to do about the problem. If it doesn't, just continue to minimize card purchase and/or leave for a while.

Common knowlege is that on MOST sites, the higher dollar pots are won by a group of names that show up as frequent winners. Everyone wants to win the "Big One" once in a while, but play SMART..... if you think the odds are against you from the git go, purchase two cards and cross ya fingers!

There has got to be a way for us to still be able to play bingo, have a good time, win once in a while and let our money last a bit longer! We need to keep talking about it, discussing ideas and "fixes", telling what our experiences were when we DID try it and so on.

Communication is the key for players. We do have the power.. we just need figure out how to use it to our advantage.


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 Post subject: SWS (same winners syndrome)
PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:00 pm 
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As I am playing bingo and see a constant stream of same winners, I usually make the remark.." OOPS! the light just came on and I think I can thankfully see my way to the door now". And then I make a quick departure. Another thing I do is make a huge deal out of the same winner in a positive way..LOL I say WOW! good for you,it has been too long since you have won! and throw in a WOWSERS..in caps! lol The old "tongue-in-cheek" congratulations.

Unfortunately, many bingo players are diehard optimists and think the next game will be theirs in spite of the same winners being pushed up in their face over and over.
Perhaps it is the wtg's by all the roomies or the flood of congratulatory macros posted by the chat leader, but something makes sensible people not realize they are in a no-win situation for the most part.
It rarely fails that I have played on a free 5 or so and seen a run of same winners. The same number of players in a room for game after game, and the same winner or group of winners game after game. I generally play2 or 3 cards without too much expectation of winning,but when I see an unequal distribution of wins, that would happen if I was playing or not My being there did not influence or interrupt the flow of regular winners in any significant way.

THAT should be a clue to not deposit or participate at that particular site. Always check out the winners lists that are proudly displayed at many sites. When you see the same names popping up as jackpot winners, take heed. It seems absurd to me that a site would post a list of same winners, but there is a psychology behind that reasoning that stimulates the idea in your brain that it could be YOU winning all those jackpots. Another great deception accomplished.
If you are tired of seeing the same winners at a site, no one can do anything to change that but you as the individual player and as a group of bingo participants. Stop allowing sites to create an environment that is accepting of this kind of deception through resignation and tolerance.
Take out your cash, spend it all up, and then go into chat and tell all your roomies to expect an even and fair chance of winning and not stand for the same people winning on a daily basis. Something is wrong with that! It is NOT luck, it is a design and a plan! Tell them to look elsewhere for a fair game!
The sites have you by the short and curlies with that, because you may be banned at all the sister sites, BUT, there are hundreds of sites out there and if you are frustrated seing the same winners ..why do you want to be at their sites anyway? They will all be the same.
STOP THE MADNESS!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:14 am 
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Jeanniebuck IS Stonelady!!!


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:44 am 
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Hiya BingoMan... do you have something to support that, or is it your opinion? Not trying to belittle, but proof would be GREAT!!! And it can take us further in out fight.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:45 am 
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I don't know what kind of proof you want but I heard this from someone that works there. I have also heard it from some players that know her and she told them that was her other name.


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 Post subject: more>>>?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:32 pm 
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bingo_manfl,
Do you have anything more than "he said, she said"? Would be super if you did.
This is the kind of information that becomes profound and enlightening when acompanied by documentation . Written proof is more concrete in nature, but a personal post by the person(s) that she said that to would be a good beginning to sort out the heresay from the facts.

Thanks for posting.

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 Post subject: In case you're interested or keeping track
PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:29 am 
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I was in RVBingo yesterday and saw the announcement that jeanniebuck won $625 on March 31 in BankHeist and again $500 on April 7 in Keno....

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 Post subject: SOW same old winner
PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:07 pm 
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I have heard chat hosts and even roomies defend a daily big winner with the defensive remark that " she (he) spends a lot of money at this site". WELL........ That kind of says it for me LOL
I dont know if that is to be construed as a promised payback for depositing a lot of funds, or they would have other players beleive that those like the infamous "stonelady" has a fortune to invest in their site and it is literally impossible to win given that she has unending funds to play bingo.
What about those that spend a lot and win rarely? I think THOSE are the people that afford the opportunity for constant winners to be successful.
Jeanniebuck has been around for some time,but seems to have remained as a low profile winner until recently. Perhaps it is because of the demise of stonelady that Jeanniebuck is now becoming apparent as a too much, too often winner.
I am sure many of you have thought what luck means to you.how you guage that in your head and key it into a sites operation and odds.
if there are 10 people playing in a game, you might think you have a better chance at this "luck" thing than if there are 60 playing. And you are right in your thinking, but when that is not part of a scenario on a daily basis, and you see the same "lucky" winner, regardless of player count, someone is messing with the random chances that provide that luck to be distributed fairly. COUNT ON IT!
Not only do I think sites have houseplayers, but I think they have housemouses too. That is my name for players that are there to deflect suspicion from the big winners. They initiate the WTG'S and show a familiarity with the winner to make players beleive that is a REAL person winning. They help give "life" to a bot or housie. For example when a player wins ...again..and there name is in the chat,but dont respond, another player might say..oh, I think they went to let the dog out" or something to that effect, when in reality the winner is nothing more than an automated device. I see this way too much and I think it may often be a chat host that holds the mouse responsibility.
This is my thinking on this and is just an opinion culminated from observation.

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