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 Post subject: More new reasons to not play at Amigo.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:43 pm 
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I have not played at this site for years, but I got a phone call from them telling me that if I come back I will get a 500% bonus on my deposit. So I thought what the heck, I will give it a shot. I went and made a small deposit (thank god), and proceeded to play. First thing I noticed is I only got 10% deposit bonus. So I wrote a ticket to find out why. In the mean time I went into chat to try and win some bbs. After my first bb win the host told me she could not credit me bbs and she didn't know why. I told her I had been gone for a few years but had made a deposit that day, so there shouldn't be a problem. But I found out the next day why. They answered my ticket stating that because my cashout ratio was higher than my deposit ratio, that I only qualified for the 10% bonus, and I could not win chat bbs. I was furious. I asked them why they called me on the phone to offer the 500% bonus then. They said thier promotion people don't check accounts to see what status they are at before making these phone calls. I didn't even know there was a ratio thingy in the first place for deposits, not to mention the ratio for chat bbs rule. I can't find that information anywhere on the site. So to sum up, if you are lucky enough to win at Amigo, they take all player privileges everyone else gets away from you. Needless to say, I bought max cards until my money was gone, and have not been back there since.


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 Post subject: Re: More new reasons to not play at Amigo.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:46 am 
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GOOD JOB! I don't blame you a bit for leaving there!!! And I couldn't find that in the site rules either. Another lesson learned from "farming out" support duties to outside companies who do not have a clue what is happening! They should have stood good for this because the company they hired to contact you offered you a deal.. and you took it! Not your fault but theirs. This also tells me that Amigo took YOUR personal information and gave it to an outside source to contact you. Players.... think about this.... who will this company pass your information to?

Also, another lesson learned in why NOT to talk on the phone with anyone representing these online sites unless you know it is the manager of chat or the site. Always have documentation of what they have to say to you it at all possible. Thanks so much for this infomation! I am so sorry you had to learn about Amigo this way and hope the lesson wasn't expensive but worth what you paid to show you it is a rogue site.. along with all the ones under thier "umbrella" of same management.

There is lots going on with the Amigo sites that will in time become open for all to know, such as an ongoing "deal" with Parlay software. Although these sites think their business is private, there are those of us who have "inquiring minds" and we want to know! So, even though it takes time, we eventually do find what we are looking for.


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 Post subject: Re: More new reasons to not play at Amigo.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:26 pm 
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Yes I found out the hard way, but it only cost me 20 bucks, so not bad lol. I can hardly wait until they call me again to make an offer, I pity the person on the other end of the phone, they are going to get an ear full that's for darn sure lol.


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 Post subject: Re: More new reasons to not play at Amigo.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:29 pm 
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hmmm $20 you dep the min to dep is $25!!!! and they do have the rules on ratio on site if you look under rules and regulations it is right there.


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At least you get your money from these sites not like some that have recently changed rules and are on your approved lists.


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 Post subject: Re: More new reasons to not play at Amigo.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:40 am 
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Hi oh yeah welcome. I too read the rules at a lot of sites. What bothers me is hidden rules that are not posted such as a rule that says if you have x # of dollars in your acct
you can not deposit. Some sites do have that rule and it is not displayed in their rules until you go to cash out.

We are not so naive as to think that sites want to be all for the players as they are in business to make money. A lot of sites where your ratio withdrawal is higher than your deposits make you ineligible for bonuses and bbs.

I am sure you are aware we as players get many e-mails and telephone calls offering us many different things and these are not always from the sites themselves but from companies that are paid to send these things and make phone calls and sometimes in their haste or because they are not well informed give players misleading information.

Recently there has been a flood of e-mails supposedly from a site such as Amigo touting
another site they are not even associated with and offering deposit bonuses that the site they are touting doesnt even offer.



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At least you get your money from these sites not like some that have recently changed rules and are on your approved lists.


It would have been nice if you had of named the site above so that we could check it out and inform our members a guests as there are only 3 of us and as there are only 24 hrs in a day we can not check out every site everyday to see rule changes and do depend on our members and guests for things they do find have changed. As we can not be everywhere at once when a player sees these we are always appreciative to get an e-mail on it so that we can keep our members and guests updated into what is going on.

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 Post subject: Re: More new reasons to not play at Amigo.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:14 am 
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The site she's speaking of is Amigo, since that is the thread title. The reason that the temporary accounts have a deadline on them is for protection of the depositors. How many sites have you played that let freebies continually win your bingos? It's not fair, and I've seen some of them play for months on end on the money they win on free bbs.

Please don't take offense, but you really should have seen the rules on the site if you read it. The statement about ratios is right on the deposit tabs, it's not hard to find. I would hope that you wouldn't partially read rules and assume from bits and pieces. I also have a problem with anyone posting their opinions on here, and it's automatically a given. Chat Monitors usually choose a name that fits them. At least that's what I've seen. I have to say if Chaos chose that name for herself/himself, then that tells me something. I'm thinking that person is living up to his/her name.

Also, how many bingo sites that outsource their advertising check all the accounts before they turn them over? I would think very few if any. I also have a hard time believing Bobbie Wood that the CM didn't know why they couldn't receive BBS. I'm told all the CM's have access to a players ratio information. Perhaps she didn't want to get into the discussion in the room and disrupt the other players.

All of these stories have two sides to them, most people don't see that. One of the reasons I stopped watching 60 minutes, only one sided stories. It's everywhere I guess. I'm thinking we should give the people that are attacked in here a chance to address the issues.

Sorry if offended anyone, but we all get our say, right?


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 Post subject: Re: More new reasons to not play at Amigo.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:20 pm 
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meomyo, firstly let me address the name situation.

Not many hosts I know get to choose their own names, many sites have the names chosen for them in relation to the actual site.

NO I did not choose the name myself, the host name that I had chosen was not to be permitted due to it had association at another site and already in use, therefore the name CHAOS was chosen for me, and as you are so quick to assume that I am now causing CHAOS with the text I have posted, maybe you should find out a little more about the host i.e ME and or the situation before making these assumptions.

Your quite right in one thing, "give the people that are attacked in here a chance to address the issues".
In fact the issues I have raised have been put forward to these people that you assume to be attacked also, they choose not to reply, they have every opportunity to reply on this site and also to the emails and facebook posts I have sent. Nothing I have posted has in anyway been hidden, because it's the truth ! I would love to have a full and frank reply from these people regarding the issues that have been raised.
They also have a letter from a lawyer that is being sent regarding breaches if copyright laws, which they so ignorantly refuse to stop doing. So given that they can read, and know that these posts have been published in a public domain, they have every option and opportunity to reply.

Lastly, "I also have a hard time believing Bobbie Wood that the CM didn't know why they couldn't receive BBS. I'm told all the CM's have access to a players ratio information", let me just comment on this also.
Having worked for BDB and SAS, which as you should know are related to Amigo through the owner, and are all on the same software, the hosts do not have access to this information, its clear that you have not hosted a room to understand this, but even if hosts did have this information it would be almost impossible to host a room and check every players account to see the eligibility. With the amount of people that come and go in a bingo chat room, it is highly impracticable to do so.


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 Post subject: Re: More new reasons to not play at Amigo.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:35 am 
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Well Chaos, then we are both assuming. Because I have hosted, and I know for a fact you can check each player's ratio. It's pretty simple if you know where to go, and it's not that hard when you have a busy room. It is not impractical either, because you are the player's support when they're in the room, and that is your job as CM.

Seems we both know alot of facts that the other doesn't. I've a feeling that you've only heard second hand accounts from Rich, which wouldn't hold up in a court of law, so it shouldn't be here.

Again, I should have worded my post differently, I apologize for my name reference and I'm sorry for the problems you are having. I hope all turns out well for you. I do think we should be careful naming people and blaming them when we do not have first hand accounts. I try not to take one person's word for a situation and post here for all to see without more facts.


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 Post subject: Re: More new reasons to not play at Amigo.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:40 am 
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meomyo -

You seem to have me a little confused, in your first post you say
" I'm told all the CM's have access to a players ratio information"
but in your reply to me you say
" I know for a fact you can check each player's ratio".

I don't know if you have been told or know for a fact
But i'm talking from my point of view working for bdb and sas which it owned by Rob, the same owner of amigo, which all use the same software, but who he chooses to have the back end information is another matter, hosts at bdb and sas did not have access to that type of information.

Thank you also for your kind words, I too hope everything works out well for us. However I having first hand information of the deceit and lies, do wish to name and shame them, giving them every opportunity to prove me wrong. As you can see they have not !


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 Post subject: Re: More new reasons to not play at Amigo.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:39 am 
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I don't know if you have been told or know for a fact.

Exactly.

If BDB and SAS had Parlay software then they had the same. And yes, employees do see the ratio since it is an important part of deposits and awarding bonus dollars. I imagine any software has disables and enables.

As you can see they have not !

Actually, no I do not see that. Number one, we would have to take your word for it. Number two, just because someone hasn't made the effort to get into a public argument on this site doesn't mean a thing. I myself would not want something like this hung out for everyone to see. I imagine there are quite a few hungry people out there who can't wait to turn the page. Sometimes, as in this situation with us, it's back and forth with accusations and no resolve. A frustrating waste of time that benefits no one but the readers of this site.

I repeat, do not judge from one sided posts people. Especially with employee decisions, there are a multitude of reasons to base any of them on that you may never see.


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 Post subject: Re: More new reasons to not play at Amigo.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:01 am 
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Have any of you noticed that Rob from AmigoBingo registered at BPU April 9th, but has not posted one word. I have to ask why he would register in the first place? Was it his way of saying he is aware of this thread and what has been posted?

This always amazes me when a site owner makes their presence known but say nothing! This is not the first time I have seen this at BPU. They have a real chance at setting the record straight, but say nothing. That makes me conclude that they are either shy or can’t refute what has been posted.

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 Post subject: Re: More new reasons to not play at Amigo.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:31 pm 
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I’ve read all the posts lately, and totally agree with what Chaos has posted. Everything she has spoken has been the truth as we were told.
We have learned a lot of what we were told by Rich was actually lies, to save his bacon? who knows!
But I definitely agree that there has been a conspiracy between Rich and Daisy to get what they wanted. Chaos becoming CM was well deserved, but it was all part of their plan to smoke screen the rest of us hosts into not leaving under the direction of Daisy, who was not well liked.
I certainly do hope that Rob has read all the posts, and sees exactly how Rich and Daisy speak about him, I’m sure that there has been a lot more said about Rob than what Chaos chose to post.
Ultimately, the blame has to fall on Rich, with all the lies he told, to make us all believe in the first instance that Lynn was to blame, No-one knows the full facts as to why Lynn’s contract was ended, the e-mail Rob sent to all players did not name her personally and he did that for reasons unknown to anyone. However he does state “It came to our attention at the end of February that many of the Chat Hosts working for BestDamnBingo were not paid in full”.
This may be true, and at that time Rich was feeding us with information secretly so that we believed he was right and nobody asked Lynn herself what was going on. To my knowledge, Lynn had every intention to catch up on pay that was owed, and it became a hardship purely because Rob had stopped access to some deposit options because of Rich going to him with what was probably lies as we have found out he is good at. Therefore leaving Lynn with very little options.


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 Post subject: Re: More new reasons to not play at Amigo.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:07 am 
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BobbieWood wrote:
I have not played at this site for years, but I got a phone call from them telling me that if I come back I will get a 500% bonus on my deposit. So I thought what the heck, I will give it a shot. I went and made a small deposit (thank god), and proceeded to play. First thing I noticed is I only got 10% deposit bonus. So I wrote a ticket to find out why. In the mean time I went into chat to try and win some bbs. After my first bb win the host told me she could not credit me bbs and she didn't know why. I told her I had been gone for a few years but had made a deposit that day, so there shouldn't be a problem. But I found out the next day why. They answered my ticket stating that because my cashout ratio was higher than my deposit ratio, that I only qualified for the 10% bonus, and I could not win chat bbs. I was furious. I asked them why they called me on the phone to offer the 500% bonus then. They said thier promotion people don't check accounts to see what status they are at before making these phone calls. I didn't even know there was a ratio thingy in the first place for deposits, not to mention the ratio for chat bbs rule. I can't find that information anywhere on the site. So to sum up, if you are lucky enough to win at Amigo, they take all player privileges everyone else gets away from you. Needless to say, I bought max cards until my money was gone, and have not been back there since.
this site continues to slander some cm's that are not thier, thier cashouts are a joke thier winners well letsjust say thier pets win alot esp the big money. lets see cm's can make certain players cards red which means they win..oh i forgot not everyone knows this can be done. well it can i have seen it. this bingo site is just that a way for THEM to make money, they could care about the ppl spending thier money.


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hisredangel said:
lets see cm's can make certain players cards red which means they win..oh i forgot not everyone knows this can be done. well it can i have seen it.
I am a CM currently using an older version of Parlay software and I can promise you although I have access to the GMS (games management system), as well as te server monitor access, There is NO WAY I can click on anything to make a particular player win. I would be very intersted on seeing your documentation on this claim you make.


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