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 Post subject: IS THERE SUCH A THING OF A HONEST BINGO SITE THESE DAYS
PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:46 pm 
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I have played 100.00 in cash and over 500 in bbs. I did not win one game. Now that is 600.00 and not a win but so many players can win over and over. Now they claim those players max out every game that is why they win. Maxing out in big games means buying 100 cards and the big games can cost $2.00 and higher for one card. I just do not see ANY ONE spending that much money and the ones who win the big games most of the time are names you never seen before. I have stopped depositing because I am just making someone else rich. I can put aside the money I would have deposited and have my own jackpot at the end of the month plus no cash out fees.

I also wonder about the free money that :)) sites give you to play. I slot that money and do great until I get up to 400.00 then in a matter of minutes I can not win anything on a spin and the slots has taken it all back. I just feel like sites have their slots set to a certain amount you can win and then your done. I am sure the sites let you win a certain amount with their free money in the beginning in hopes you deposit. I have been playing online for a very long time and all sites are the same way. I now go to land bingo so I can see a ral person yell bingo and go to casino's in my home town if I want to play slots. I just felt the need to post my thoughts. good luck with those still thinking they might hit big and donate tons of money to the owners so they can keep living their hign life style and laugh at how stupid people are for falling for all this . Best of Luck


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 Post subject: Re: IS THERE SUCH A THING OF A HONEST BINGO SITE THESE DAYS
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 4:27 pm 
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Hi BingoGirl :-h

It's been awhile since I saw you here.
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Now they claim those players max out every game that is why they win. Maxing out in big games means buying 100 cards and the big games can cost $2.00 and higher for one card. I just do not see ANY ONE spending that much money and the ones who win the big games most of the time are names you never seen before.


The majority of online Bingo Sites explain the Same Winner Syndrome by saying "They win a lot because they Max their cards". Like you! I had to accept this feeble explanation for many years. Being involved in the online Bingo Community for some 10 years now has been an education.

Information about how Bingo Operators set up their games is closely held information that is guarded and only a select few know what occurs in the back end of any Online Bingo Site. Sure! There are lots of speculation and suspicions of wrong doing, but no concrete proof. It has taken Bingo Players Union's Staff many years of work to uncover how shady operators cheat their players. But through hard work and dedication to uncovering the truth we gained the respect and trust of many in the Bingo Community that shared our views.

Insiders (those that possess the knowledge of what really goes on and how the games are rigged) slowly came forward. It all started on January 1, 2012 when CM Beth came forward and presented solid proof of cheating by Bingo Vega owner, Mike Yates and his Family. That was a start to fitting all the pieces of the puzzle together on how the majority of Online Bingo Operators cheat their players and rig their games. We no longer have to speculate! We have verified how it’s done.

There are many facets to how they rig the games, but let’s just talk about what BingoGirl stated about Same Winner & Max Cards as an explanation! It is a fact the more cards you play the better your chances of winning are; this is statistically proven. When you are told certain players win a lot because they Max their cards it’s the truth. But what you are not told is the majority of the players playing Max Cards are House Players or Bots. Bots are fake names the Bingo Operator sets up to play against their depositing players. These accounts have unlimited funds and set to max their cards. By playing House Accounts the bingo site greatly increases the sites take and why they can offer larger pots.

Many of you notice that in the small prize games many of your roomies win. But when the really big games are played you notice lots of new name come up as the winner. The winning card is chosen randomly but the House always plays way more cards than the Depositing Players. It can be over 2/3 Bot and House Player Accounts in any given game. I could go on and on about this, but enough said for now!


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 Post subject: Re: IS THERE SUCH A THING OF A HONEST BINGO SITE THESE DAYS
PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 10:49 pm 
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hi again, yes it has been awhile since I posted but I didn't go any where. lol . I still check the post from time to time.

I have tried to max out myself and still could not win. These cheating sites are just getting too out of control. I would also love to say more . You never hear anything from management either any more at some site . I guess they are too busy counting the money we donate. It is just said that we can't relax in our homes and enjoy playing bingo instead of thinking wow I never heard of that name before. I know players change their names but when you play somewhere for so long you know who has had their name forever and you hear them say I just can't catch a break here. Well I do not think they ever will catch a break. It is just sad that they get away with it and do not realize they are pushing players away :-q


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 Post subject: Re: IS THERE SUCH A THING OF A HONEST BINGO SITE THESE DAYS
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 12:45 pm 
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Buying Max cards do improve your odds, but you are competing with an overwhelming amounts of fake house players that are maxing their cards also. You need to consider that in any particular game there is a minimum of 50% of those playing the game that are playing for the house. These accounts are set to play max cards in every game they play. It's easy for any Real Person Player to max out on the 5 or 10 cent games! But when the cards cost $1.00 and up, there are few players that can afford to max every game.

It's so easy to hid the fact that the house is using fake players because they use PRE-BUYS and are OOC OUT OF CHAT. I have played at and watched what goes on at the bingo site we are both talking about, but not naming. The degree of rigging their games is probably higher than what Bingo Vega was caught doing. It's just a matter of time before the truth comes out.


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 Post subject: Re: IS THERE SUCH A THING OF A HONEST BINGO SITE THESE DAYS
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:58 pm 
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Yes we are talking about the same site and I guess we will just have to watch and waited it out till they slip up , Bingo Vega slipped up a lot of times . Players would sign in and our cash amount would be $ 1,000 with the name bingoboy. A lot of players would question that but they always tried covering it up. It is only a matter of time till they slip up but it will happen :D


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 Post subject: Re: IS THERE SUCH A THING OF A HONEST BINGO SITE THESE DAYS
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:-o If it walks like a Duck and quacks like a Duck, than it must be a Duck! I've been in this business long enough to know when a Bingo Site has its games rigged! I also had a working relationship with the owner, for some time. It ended in 2011 when he screwed me out of my Affiliate Account. I remember thinking that if he would cheat an affiliate, he was capable of cheating his players. There is no doubt in my mind as to what is going on at that Bingo Site and I'm sure it's obvious to lots of other people.


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 Post subject: Re: IS THERE SUCH A THING OF A HONEST BINGO SITE THESE DAYS
PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 1:32 pm 
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I know for a fact there are players that have been talking and yes they see what is going on. It is just a matter of time till it goes down


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 Post subject: Re: IS THERE SUCH A THING OF A HONEST BINGO SITE THESE DAYS
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I'm getting close to calling them out! #-o I order to understand how these fake accounts are made, one has to know a little about the Bingo Software. When Bingo Software is developed and written, one of the built-in features is for the Bingo Site Operator to have the ability to create bogus accounts to test out the software while the Bingo Site is in Beta Testing. They set up all these bogus accounts and than run the Bingo Program to find and fix issues that pop up. Once the Bingo Site is done with Beta Testing and the site is open to the public. The Bingo Operator should delete all the bogus accounts and the only active accounts should be from real depositing players that sign up.

Unfortunately, many unscrupulous Bingo Operators see the advantage of keeping some Bogus Accounts active, because it does three things.

1. It inflates the number of people playing at a site or in a particular game. For example! If a game shows 60 players playing a particular game. You could have 20 depositing players playing against 40 fake (bot) accounts.

2. Playing fake House Accounts greatly increases the Houses Take!

3. Since the Houses Take is increased they can afford to advertise and payout bigger pots.

In the long run, the house always has the advantage! Players enjoy the friendship of other real players and the Chat Hosts and games are wonderful. Even though the house has the advantage, players can still win a sizable Jackpot. But if you were to total the wins of real players to Fake players, the Fake players come way-out on top.


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 Post subject: Re: IS THERE SUCH A THING OF A HONEST BINGO SITE THESE DAYS
PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 11:03 pm 
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It just makes me sick to think they are getting away with it and we are making them rich while our bank accounts get smaller and smaller. it is to the point where I think they should shut them all down. Players would be upset but it doesn't take long to get use to not playing at paid sites. They would see how much more money they would have. It is like building your own jackpot in your bank account . It is just sad that people can be so dishonest to players who are paying all their bills so they can live high and mighty.That is greed. and when it all closes down on them, they will look back and realize what they did and it will be too late. Same thing has happened to land bingo sites. They cut back on their payouts and pay less if they do not have a certain amount of players. Those bingo halls loose so many customers that they have to close and than they are sorry, Too late players have moved on to other bingo halls. This is happening to online bingo sites. Maybe it would be better if the goverment took them over. Just a lot of thoughts about what is going on .


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 Post subject: Re: IS THERE SUCH A THING OF A HONEST BINGO SITE THESE DAYS
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Are you talking about Bingo Mania =))


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 Post subject: Re: IS THERE SUCH A THING OF A HONEST BINGO SITE THESE DAYS
PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 8:18 pm 
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I am referring to all sites, not just one. I been at a lot of sites and same thing has been going on. It is a shame because I enjoyed playing online Bingo. I been going to land bingo a lot more and have been pretty good .


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 Post subject: Re: IS THERE SUCH A THING OF A HONEST BINGO SITE THESE DAYS
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SunnyicanbeSunnyicanbe do you play online bingo a lot? Have you noticed what I had or is it just me?
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 Post subject: Re: IS THERE SUCH A THING OF A HONEST BINGO SITE THESE DAYS
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Let me add this to the mix. Many years ago I created a couple of dummy accounts so I could play but under another name thinking I might be able to win a game or two by playing an account that hadn't been played in a couple of months. I shouldn't call them dummy accounts though since all accounts had different checking accounts and addresses associated with them. All accounts were legitimate, and all games I played were funded by me. So if I could create multiple accounts, just how easy would it be for a bingo owner/operator to do one and the same? I associate online bingo with slot machines. The house has to make a dollar to pay bills so that's where the bots come into play. I just get upset with the greed associated with the bingo sites, and the fact that the owners/operators try many different ways to screw you out of your winnings. Lets face it, you will win, you will cash out, and you will re-fund your account. They will still make money on you.


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 Post subject: Re: IS THERE SUCH A THING OF A HONEST BINGO SITE THESE DAYS
PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:24 pm 
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darlenelayne You are so right and we keep on letting them get away with their game by keep on depositing . We know the house has to pay bills but they live in beautiful homes , drive expensive cars and go on lots of vacations because we support them. Yes the greed is getting way out of control . i think someone needs to have more control and stop letting them get away with it. It use to be fun playing but not the way the sites are cheating us. I know how easy it is to make different accounts, You are so right. If we can do it so can they.


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 Post subject: Re: IS THERE SUCH A THING OF A HONEST BINGO SITE THESE DAYS
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I have been reading & following BPU for years now. I quit playing long ago because of the education I have received on this website. I believe Richard is talking about bingomania. Am I right?


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