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 Post subject: In a positive light :-))
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:21 pm 
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Hi BPU and members!
In light of the several hours of reading I've done on BPU today, I would like to post a positive thread about an online bingo company (with several sites) that I have had the pleasure of being involved with. I have had much experience with Bingo Entertainment, LTD. Their sites include: BingoGala, BingoMega (quarters and nickels), Premier Bingo, Bingo Empire, Mainstreet Bingo, Glamour Bingo, Starlight Bingo, Imperial Bingo, Bingo Splash, Paramount Bingo and Exclusive Bingo. I have never read a negative post at any forum about this company. I have my own experience as a player as well as a CM with Bingo Entertainment. I was a player first, for many months, then had a CM send me a private message telling me I should send in my resume, as I was a natural. I did and two weeks later I had a job with the company at one of the sister sites. At Bingo Entertainment sites, we are allowed only to play at sites we don't work at. Also, at Bingo Entertainment, there are no "wagering requirements" to be able to cashout. If you make a deposit, you win money on that deposit, you can cashout immediately. Also, which is almost unheard of at most sites, if you receive a promotional email with a code to receive bbs to play on, if you WIN ...a bingo, or a PJP on those bbs, you can cash it out! I know, because I have won jps on bbs at more than one of their sites, and was able to cashout immediately, no questions asked. I also would like to say, that there are no "set days" when they do their cashouts. They do them every single day. And on top of that, they do their cashouts within 12 hours of your cashout request. Meaning, that the money comes out of your bingo account and is processed within 12 hours. Depending on the cashout method chosen, it takes only a few days to receive your win!
As I said, I was, until recently, employed by B.E. and enjoyed my job very much. I know there are no house players at their sites, because I know most of the players at all sites. I either know them from working at two of their sites (not at the same time tho lolol) as a CM, or from playing with them as a player. I just wanted everyone to know there are honest sites out there, and B.E. is definitely one of them. I have never heard or seen any negative posts about any of their sites. They pay their winners. I had the pleasure of being one of their winners ....several times. I just wanted there to be a breath of fresh air. :-)) There are plenty of dishonest sites out there, I just wanted to breathe some happiness that there is a home of wonderful sites. :-))

On a different note, I'd like to make a point about "multiple account" rules at many sites. I, for one, will be closing my accounts at most all sites until it is regulated. I see soooooo many times, a new site I thought I'd never registered at so I register so I can check it out...only to find that I've already registered at one of their "sister sites". To me, when there are "sister sites" they should each be their own entity with no connection to the other sites! This is how many of these sites get around the "multiple accounts" rule and cheat their players out of pay they deserve. If you register under the name "janedoe" at one sister site...and then later register as janedoessister" at another sister site...they are a conglomerate ...therefore...you are UNKNOWINGLY creating a "multiple account." With that said, many people register NOT knowing that Zany is a sister site to Zodiac and Bingofun. If you register at one of those sites, you have an account already. Didn't know that? Yep! That's their purpose in "linking" their sites together! To keep people from "knowing" that they have an account within the company already. Dishonest dishonest dishonest!! As for some of the sites saying, "it isn't recognized that there is a multiple account until a cashout is requested".....BULLPUCKY! If there is a flag that comes up and says..."this username/email address are already in use, please choose another"......UM SITE ADMINISTRATOR....PAY ATTENTION!! If this flag comes up ...they could also set their site to read..."this username/email address is already in use, you may only register one account per household, please email support for further information"...or something to that effect. Most often it's NOT the player that is at fault for multiple accounts if they are registering within a company but at a sister site. It's inside manipulation by the company. When registering with a company, if they are an HONEST company, they should post a message to a new registered player something to the effect of "once you register with us at (Company name), you never need register again ...and the sites that are included in our company are...(list the sites)"......so people are aware that they can only have ONE account within this company if they ever plan to cashout. C'mon you site owners/administrators....it ain't THAT hard to be honest....and when you are honest.....ya don't get bit in the butt down the road. Greed will get you nowhere. Honesty will keep you around for YEARS to come and your players will pass on the word that you are an honest company with infallable integrity! What could be better for the long term?? And also, once the regulation and legalization of online gaming comes to be (and it WILL) these companies who are honest will be able to enter a new market with their heads held high and their players full of confidence in their company's policies. Ok...time to get off my soap box LOL.

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C'mon you site owners/administrators....it ain't THAT hard to be honest....and when you are honest.....ya don't get bit in the butt down the road. Greed will get you nowhere.


This is a very true statement Bren... problem is they don't have to be honest. They are still making money had over fist and cheating players on a daily basis!! I love the way you chose Zany and their sister sites as an example. We have known for a LONG time how crooked they are. Now they go under the heading of "Goodtimes" bingo but you can still go to either zany OR Bingofun OR Zodiac and none of them say anything about "Goodtimes" bingo... isn't that strange?

I believe that Debbie Richardson of Bingofun is in management there for the 3 of them. As I understand it, again I may be wrong, but if you play at one site you are playing against all players at all three sites. It is rumored that Kamarie was "let go" and that Debbie Richardson, of the "Freedom Protest bust" AKA "Save Debbie's job at Bingofun show" is now in charge. Well we see what her little demonstration in Washington got her.... Kamaries job!!

Sorry but those sites really create a bad taste in my mouth LOL.

I played at Starlight for a while and I liked it. In fact I believe ( I may be wrong) we once had it on our approved list. They most certainly did do cashouts fast and with no hassle. I ultimately quit playing there for the same reason I quit most of the sites I played at (to begin with) The old " same winners syndrome". I spent enough time there to recognize it and wasn't comfortable with it so just stopped playing there.

We are so happy to have you and your input!! Once again... Welcome!


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 Post subject: up your bingo! lol
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:51 pm 
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I am finding it very interesting that lately i am seeing quite lengthy and personal praises of particular bingo sites. Very honest and straightforward praising, almost naive in nature in some cases, exhalting the virtues and honesty of a site. Some of the posts would almost be believable if I didnt know the site was blacklisted, boycotted or considered a rogue site by several forums and review sites.
Perhaps this is a new technique to reel in the newbies or uninitiated paying players amidst the chaos and desperation of the pay for play bingo scene. Maybe it is an attempt to draw attention away from "bad press", but whatever it is, players need to do their own investigating of a site and not jump on someone elses happy wagon.
Some do fare better than others at sites that are considered to be user un-friendly, house sided with complex rules. That does not make it a safe site to play. Someones name has to be listed as a winner at a site to draw in other players... a token winner here and there always excites people into thinking it could happen to them. LOL
Be alert, aware and educate yourself about a sites rules, policies and always check out the winners lists for several months.
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The best thing to do is keep your money in your pocket unless you want to donate it as a charitable gesture to some bingo site until every site has to adhere to a standard policy of fairness.


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 Post subject: I know how "same winners" syndrome looks for sure
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:54 pm 
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I know what you mean about "same winner's syndrome...I have seen it often. I can tell you this much about Starlight...a few years back B.E. networked several sites together....Starlight, Imperial, Paramount, Exclusive (that used to be called Emerald), and Splash....that's called the Bingo Entertainment Network. That's the second cm job I held with B.E. was at the Network. I first worked at Bingo Mega. As a cm there, I saw all players in and out on a regular basis...er...uh....most of them daily. We had access to administrative pages that showed cards played, name of site, name of player, player id #, and who was in chat and who was playing "in the lobby." I can tell you that many of the players at the Network (I'll call it the NW from her forth) were small card players and I saw many "same players" who were both small card players and higher rollers, so it really didn't show me much of a pattern that would have suggested house players. It pretty much varied all the time, but when the same players are there to play...the same winners will often prevail, if that makes any sense. When I first started playing online bingo, I played at Bingo Splash. That's my original bingo home. When I was asked by my boss at B.E. if I would transfer from Bingo Mega to the NW, I was a bit shaken because that would mean I couldn't play there any longer :-(( . I did accept the transfer and worked for exactly a year at the NW. I loved it!! I grew so fond of my roomies, and I miss them all very much. Over the course of the year that I worked there, I made many friends, one of whom is the woman that was head CM at the time. She is SUCH an awesome lady!! I'm volunteering for her at the bingo directory site that she and her boyfriend and her mom have started. It feels soooo good to be working with her again!! If you'd like to check out the site I'm referring to it's called www.bingograpes.com. It's awesome! Some wonderful fun things are coming alive at our site very soon! I'm very excited! Back to the previous subject...lol.. got sidetracked in my excitement. In light of what's happened with the USA law, Bingo Entertainment recently merged several of their solo sites in with the NW. The only site that now remains standing alone (for now) is Bingo Gala. All 11 of B.E.'s other sites have joined the NW now. One thing I love about B.E. is that...even tho all these sites are joined together in one location now, you may STILL have an account at each and every one of them. They still remain their own entity in that respect. They don't play this "multiple accounts" crap that some of these companies do. I think that tactic is to clear the way for sites to say..."you can't have multiple accounts and since you do, and you broke the rules...we don't have to pay you what you won." If that's the case, the players with multiple accounts should be shut out BEFORE they are allowed to deposit and play. If the company can TAKE their money, without catching the fact that this player has multiple accounts, then they should PAY their money, and then disable the accounts after letting them know that it has come to their attention that the person has multiple accounts. One huge question I have is....since I have seen sites that flag your IP address FIRST...(and they seem to be the more honest sites with this "multiple accounts" rule)...why can't they ALL be set up to do that??? The answer? Simple. They CAN BE...if the company so chooses. If they don't choose to flag the IP first thing, then they are guilty of theft, in my eyes. They are telling all their players (multiple accounts or not)..."we'll take ANYONE'S money, just don't expect us to pay you after you've won, but don't expect us to TELL you that until after you've won either!" *SHAKES HEAD AND SHAKES POINTED FINGER AT BAAAAAD SITES LIKE THAT* Shame on each one of you that operate your business like that!!! TSK TSK!! As I've read in some of the posts on here...and I couldn't agree more....WHAT GOES AROUND...COMES AROUND.....consider this.....when your sites see it "come around".......we'll all be here watching and saying...WE TOLDDDDD YOU SOOOOOO!!!" REGULATION REGULATION REGULATION!!! Stop dishonest sites, regulate!! No company that is dishonest in the physical business world gets away with it for long. Can yall say...ENRON??? suuuure ya can! It's no different in the online world, once word gets out your big old drain opens up and sucks you down where you belong! Ok....*hopping off soap box again*.....there....boyyyy do I feel better!!! LOL!!

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BingoMega quarters....played there for awhile...you want to talk about the SAME WINNERS. I think that site is the queen of all sites for the same people winning. CM's are overly friendly either and the chat roomies..omg. I've never seen a more sour bunch in my life. Very rude and don't like new comers. I could understand if I actually won lots there but I didn't so don't understand the rudeness. Would never recommend that site to anyone.

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 Post subject: In a positive light :-))
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:06 am 
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I can see that some of you think I'm just a site promoter, and I'm not, I was just telling of my experiences with Bingo Entertainment when I worked and played there. If there were house players, they certainly didn't inform us about it!! I've read in many of the posts on here where the finger was pointed at the CM for regulating winners. I assure you, at B.E. we never had that much control LOLOLOL!!! In fact, we were on a VERY tight leash and were given as little freedom as they could muster to give us. They ran a tight ship. And I assure you also, I wasn't promoting the site for my own benefit. I don't and won't have any further relationship with this company after their most recent decision to merge Bingo Mega in with the B.E. Network. I know and understand that things are tough in the online bingo industry right now and that merging is necessary for companies to save their sites. BUT, what is awful and inhumane is...when they merged Mega (nickels and quarters) into the Network in the middle of the night, without a WORD to the people that worked at Mega. They woke up in the morning to messages on ICQ saying, "we've merged Mega with the Network, your services at this company are no longer required"........THESE PEOPLE HAD HOUSEHOLDS AND FAMILIES TO SUPPORT YOU SICK PIGS!! And also, back in January when they merged all the sites and closed out USA players, they did it with no prior notice to anyone then also....put 15 CMs out of work and locked out their USA players in the middle of a game. I see a pattern here. HUSHHHHHHH ....don't tell anyone that their own life is about to fall apart because we don't want to lose all that income from right this minute!! SCREW EVERYONE ELSE!
It just makes me sick. I sincerely take back every positive word I said about this company. If they'll dump people in the middle of the night with no notice so they can attempt to find a different job, and if they'll lock out usa players in the middle of a game......HOW HONEST CAN THEY BE??? But, I will say this....before the current arsehole took over running the show, his brother ran the show...RICHARD...where are you during all this??? Isn't this YOUR company?? What happened to you being a caring person? Are you gonna let Michael just run this place totally into the ground??

Just makes me sick sick sick how one human being (in monster form) can treat other humans the way he does and then expect us to LIKE IT...and accept it without question....and then be told that they don't "appreciate being badmouthed"........well DUHHHHH catch a clue buddy!!! People don't like to be treated like they have never mattered....and you're a MASTER at that!!!

When they first opened back up to USA players....I wanted my job back, because I missed my roomies......well, after this little stunt.....I'LL NEVER WORK FOR THAT COMPANY AGAIN NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS IN THE BINGO INDUSTRY!!! I only said things back in February that were TRUE.....and you can't fault me for being honest. AT LEAST SOMEONE IS WILLING TO!!!

Sorry, had to vent. The people that know what I'm talking about....KNOW what I'm talking about...and that's what matters. Good luck to all my B.E. friends......and good ridance to all of you who readily and steadily support this worthless company!!

Nicky, I hope you burn in hell. You were NEVER a friend, you used and abused.....and now you're gonna find out just what I was talking about back in February when I "badmouthed the company and my supervisors." I know someone will tell you about this post, and I hope it's soon. You need to read that I think you've deserved everything you've ever gotten from people and that you AREN'T a poor innocent victim. YOU USE PEOPLE to get what you want, and then you trash em. WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND WOMAN. I hope to be around to see yours "come around."

As for Don, I always admired you and got along well with you. I bent over BACKWARDS for this company and did they do the same for me? HELL NO!! THEY DIDN'T FOR ANY OF THEIR EMPLOYEES!!! So what makes you think that when we've been trampled on and waited SIX WEEKS for our pay, my family had financial obligations and I panicked. I vented to little miss Nicky about how I was feeling, and she copy/pasted everything to mangagement. Nice friend. And for you...yes I did say some unkind things about the company TO YOU also, Don, but I don't appreciate being put off, lied to and dumped on and then expected to remain LOYAL to a company that has no more loyalty to its players or its employees than a burglar has to its victims!!

I hope B.E. goes down in flames........good riddance.


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okay i'm lost here. One minute you are praising the site now you aren't. Do you even know...lol? Might be careful or someone might think you have multipule personalities.

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 Post subject: back to reality
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Hunny, when I posted what I posted last night, it was before I had knowledge that Bingo Entertainment had further dumped on their employees and players. I do still say that payouts have never been a problem and I don't believe there were house players, and I'll stand by that. But that's as far as my loyalty to that company will EVER go, ever again. They have hurt too many people I care about, and treated people as though their lives were worth nothing. I can't condone, nor will I EVER condone anybody acting like that. And for a company to EXPECT loyalty from their employees and players and turn and crap on them, it's inconscienable. They put now 22 people out of work, without so much as a WORD prior to the company's actions. Some of them were let go in the middle of a shift, back in January! They downed the sites to merge them together, and the CMs were told NOTHING. During the time the sites were down, they were told..."we're having technical difficulties, we'll be back up in about an hour."....THEN...when the sites were actually back up and running..and merged together...the CMs that had been at the sites that were merged in were told, "your service here is no longer required".......POOF!! JUST LIKE THAT. These people had families to help support, bills to pay, food to put on their tables, and they were DUMPED in the middle of their shift!! NOBODY deserves that...and then to be expected to remain loyal to the company that did it to you? My feelings on that are that the company can go straight to hell. And, my friends, that's exactly where they're headed.


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Firstly bren, what I had said in my earlier post wasn't a personal attack. I was joking. I thought it was funny, but I'm sorry if you didn't.
Secondly, I don't see how you can post something if you don't have all your info, other than like you said from personal experience. I knew about the merge 2 days ago as I got an email from them since i'm a member of bingo mega quarters. If you did some reading, you will find that most of the sites you listed above are in the blackbooks in alot of forums. Same winners, payouts not being made and so on. Everyone has their own personal opinion and you posted yours just like we did. Nothing more nothing less. Don't make it bigger than what it was. As for me personally attacking people. You can read on a couple of different forums, I have only attacked twice and that was because I was attacked first for no reason at all. I believe my comment was something like " stop sniffing glue and get your facts straight" for them involving me in a post when I hadn't even commented on that thread.

Anyway..off I go....

HOLD OUT FOR REGULATION...ITS THE ONLY WAY TO GO.

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 Post subject: same topic
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My PM to you was meant to be between us Hunny, and nobody else. I apologize if you thought you were being funny, but if you read it again, it sounded more like a personal dig to me. If B.E. sites are on blacklists for non-payment, how recent are the posts? I have NEVER found one, maybe I'm not looking in the right spots. It doesn't matter, because I'm NOT DEFENDING that company any longer. Have you READ my last couple posts? They can't be an honest company if they will do their players and employees the way the KEEP doing them. End of story. I'm done ranting for now. I am also a member at Mega Nickels and I never got an email. So, I guess that means I'm not as important as some of their players, who knows...who cares. They can keep their emails, I'm no longer interested in being part of their bingo, player or employee.


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I hear ya Bren...no site that doesn't look after their players or their CM's with worth anything. I don't think it will be much longer before they will have to shut their doors anyway. And even if they come back when things are regulated, people will remember what they did and boycott them. Again, I'm sorry you didnt think it was funny, but i was really only making a joke. I am an honest person and i didn't mean to hurt your feelings, truly.


The email I got...................................

Dear BingoMEGA player!

We simply cannot wait to share the great news with you!

As from today BingoMEGA will become part of the Bingo Entertainment Network, probably the biggest online bingo network at present!

If you liked playing at BingoMEGA before, we can guarantee that you will love it now. All your favorite games can still be found there and in addition to all your friends, you will now get the chance to make new ones and join one of the liveliest chat rooms online.

blah blah blah...there is more about JP's and such but you get the picture.

Hunnie


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 Post subject: bingoentertainment
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yea bren hope you feel better now hun and i totally agree with every thing you said. i was also a cm at one of the sites and put in almost 5 years with the company. loyal to the core to my job i got shafted just like the rest only i was one of the first ones to go. evidently seniority didn't play a part in who was kept and who was let go other wise i'd still be working. i was in the middle of my shift also when they incorporated mainstreet into network, no warning, no nothing. needless to say i no longer play there either unless they give me freebies to play on. i have to admit they are good about their payouts and i don't think that that favor one player over another, but they sure don't know how to treat their employees, and like you i won't work for them again. so players beware, espicially USA players. they pulled the plug on us US players once they can do it again, if you do decide to play at one of their sites i sure wouldn't deposit a lot of money. they promised to send US players a money order with any moneys that had left. i've heard from quite a few they didn't get it.


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Welcome to BPU Gin! Thank you for your valuable insight! I fully agree with you and Bren! That is no way to treat people that have been loyal to those they worked for.


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It does my heart good to hear things from those who KNOW what happened first hand.

Welcome Gin.. we are very glad to have you hear and I enjoy hearing your information!!
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needless to say i no longer play there either unless they give me freebies to play on.


Would you be so kind as to tell me if you can cash out any winnings you may get from these freebies? Thanks in advance.. :):)

I know your anger bren. It happened to me when I found out that my old bingo "home" was crooked at a dirt road in Arkansas!! Don't know about you, but made me feel like a fool and I don't deal with that AT ALL!


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 Post subject: cashout
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if you have deposited at the site before you can cash out money from freebies at bingoentertainment. if you haven't made a deposit yet then know. however you won't get those freebies unless you've already signed up sooooooooo i would say yes in most cases you can. it depends on how much you've deposited in the past. BE is very good about cash outs and has a lot of possitive attributes. most of the chat host are awesome and they really care about the players on their site. I know i did. the roomies as far as i was concerned always came first and i think the cm's all feel that way.


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