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 Post subject: Amigo Bingo/Australiabingo.com/Canadiandollarbingo.com
PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:15 am 
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4. Deposit Bonuses
Bonuses are awarded upon successful deposit of funds to your account

All 1st Deposits earn a 500% Match Bonus. All others are awarded 400% PLUS 100% in chat bbs.
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These generous Bonus programs should be a red flag to any Savvy Player! Sure it prolongs your play, But makes it hard to qualify for a payout! You need to ask your self: Are you playing for shear entertainment? Or are you playing to hit and cashout? If your reason is the later, you are wasting your money at this site.



All bonuses in your account will be cancelled in the event of a cash-out request.

Bonuses with expiry periods will automatically be deducted from the players account on the date of expiry. Free $5 or $10 bonuses are for fun only and expire 48 hours after added.

We also have special VIP and Chat Bonuses, check Bonus page for details.

Players with a Payout Ratio of 90% or higher do not qualify for any special bonuses or bonus promotions above loyalty level bonuses.

New players get a Free $10 Test Drive Bonus upon sign up. They do not qualify for other freebies as we are not a free site and do not consider it fair to depositing players.

If you have more payouts than deposits you are not eligible to receive BB's. Players over 100% ratio do not qualify for chat bonuses or specials and only receive 50% of the loyalty bonus.
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7. Payout Requests

Only winnings earned off deposits or comp earned from a deposit will be allowed for a payout request.

Players wishing to cash-out must meet all wagering rules.

Payout will be not approved if winnings come from bonus offered as non-depositing promotion.
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This clearly shows that they have non-depositing promotions, that turns Bonus seekers into House Players! This means when a depositing player makes a wager, they are competing not only against other depositing players, but also the Free Money players If the Free Money players wins, the House keeps the money! Free Money players is a great advantage for the house and many sites exploit this policy.



Cash-outs are completed promptly every Wednesday.
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This is the favored stall tactic, employed by sites that delay payments to winners hoping they will want to get back to playing and Flow Back some or all of their winnings. There are many other sites out there that will process a payout 24/7 and you have it in your account within hours.This site is happy to take your Money, but are unreasonable in releasing, when you win!



Cash-out requests must be made before Tuesday @11:59pm CST.

All payouts from jackpot wins $1000 and higher will be paid out in 4 equal weekly installments.
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From what I know about Bingo Jack Pots, Every game played add a bit to the JP! This is so called money put aside each and every game to the JP total. By limiting the amount they will pay you weekly, they are counting on you flowing back some of your winnings. The money has already been put aside for the win, they should be able to pay it in one installment! Be a savvy Player and see through this deception.



Should you want to transfer funds into your players account from your pending payout you will be able to do so by completing a flow back to your players account.
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Like I said! This is the main reason they have once a week payouts


All accounts must have a correct and valid contact phone number and email address listed in their account profile. Use of an invalid phone number and/or email address is grounds for forfeiture of any and all winnings.

If a payout has been requested 100% of ALL REMAINING COMP will be removed from your account.

All eligible payouts will be processed and paid in its original deposit method, if the method cannot be used we will send via http://www.Instadebit.com to Canada and http://www.Neteller.com to other locations.

All accounts must have a correct valid contact phone number and email address listed in their account profile. If the contact information is invalid this will cancel your payout request and your account will be closed.

For your own protection we do not allow redemptions to be sent to alternate accounts. This means that the account that we send your winnings to must be in the same name as your player account.

For first time payouts we request copies of 2 Picture ID's or one ID and a utility bill to verify the name and address. This is a one time only requirement. Documents can be scanned and emailed to help@thebingoaffiliates.com.
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Like many other sites, it's easy to get Money into, but not out of! Why is this?


Cash outs are paid at a maximum of $500 per week, except payouts from jackpot wins $1000 or more which are sent in 4 weekly payments.
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Did we not deal with this issue above? Guess they want to make a point, that they will pay you in installments, with money they already collected!


Only ONE payout request is allowed per week, if you cancel your request you must wait for the following week to request another payout.

Only ONE account is allowed per player and per household - In the event a player opens multiple accounts to achieve bonuses, all bonuses will be removed and any monies in the player account will become null and void - no exceptions.

For players depositing with ACH, until we have received all inbound ACH deposits all out payouts will be declined.

Only one account is allowed per player and only personal accounts can be used to deposit for all methods.

Payouts will only be returned to accounts in the players name and using accounts in other peoples name is considered fraud and will cause the account to be closed and all balances to be voided.

Free Bonuses are for fun only and players cannot cashout winnings from these bonuses.
You must wait 24 hours after last deposit to request a payout.

* For now all payouts will be done at Par since the canadian and american dollar are not within 2% of one another.

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9. Wagering Rules by Game

Game Type Wagering rule

Bingo 1x
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If you only play bingo, if you deposited $50. you need to play thru $250 to be eligitable for a cash out.


Casino Games 12x

Bingo + Casino Games 12x
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if you play even one casino game, your cash out requirements above are now 12X$250=$3,000This is the big trap folks, and you agree to this when you sign up to this site! Be Savvy and don't play at this site!


10. Additional withdrawal rules

All bonus money will be forfeited upon requesting a withdrawal.

Cash outs are paid at a maximum of $500 per week

There is a 24-hour wait period after a deposit before any cash out requests can be made.
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So if you are a lucky winner just after you start playing, They won't even consider your wins until 24 hours of play! Who does this rule benifit? /quote]

Players who have not made a deposit within 30 days are not eligible for cashouts, the 30 days are from the day the payout is processed, NOT requested. It is the players responsibility to request the payout in time.
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another Gotcha Rule that benefits the site This is when their generious Bonus Program comes into play and prolongs your play to get you past their 30 day rule. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to see this!

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12. Registration
Only ONE account is allowed per player and per household - In the event a player opens multiple accounts to achieve bonuses, all bank/winnings and bonus balances will be removed and these balances will become null and void - no exceptions.

This site is part of TheBingoAffiliates Network so if you think you may have an account with another of our sites please email help@thebingoaffiliates.com to verify before signing up.
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How many of you can name all the other sites in TheBingoAffiliates Network? Why are they not listed here? Would that not be a service to their players?

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 Post subject: Re: Amigo Bingo/Australiabingo.com/Canadiandollarbingo.com/Stars
PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:44 pm 
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This clearly shows that they have non-depositing promotions, that turns Bonus seekers into House Players! This means when a depositing player makes a wager, they are competing not only against other depositing players, but also the Free Money players If the Free Money players wins, the House keeps the money! Free Money players is a great advantage for the house and many sites exploit this policy.


Untrue the free trial bonus expires after 24 hrs as it is not a free site correct! They get sign up bonus to try out site thats it not entitled to any other bonus!!
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If you only play bingo, if you deposited $50. you need to play thru $250 to be eligitable for a cash out.


Also untrue if you dep $50 your playthrough is $50 which is 1 x dep basic maths.
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if you play even one casino game, your cash out requirements above are now 12X$250=$3,000This is the big trap folks, and you agree to this when you sign up to this site! Be Savvy and don't play at this site!


also untrue 12 x $50 is $600...cmon guys get facts straight amigobingo, canadian dollar bingo and bingo australia applys these wagering rules. Maybe you should check all the sites as each one is different not just start jumping gun and slacking off by going to one site and making up the rules to match the others.

I play here and yes I get my money every wednesday not like as i stated your approved sites wbn where money still waiting to be collected from.... Rather play here than anywhere else....


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 Post subject: Re: Amigo Bingo/Australiabingo.com/Canadiandollarbingo.com
PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:59 pm 
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Hi oh yeah thank you for your comments! You are sort of new to our site, or you would know that BPU Policy is (and always has been) to never post anything we can’t back up! We don’t just haphazardly post misinformation as your post suggests. We take great care in anything we post is fact not fiction or made up. The Rules that I listed here and made comments on some of them came from their sites!

We have been doing this since the fall of 2005 and still here because we have our finger on the pulse of the online bingo industry and have experience on the tactics sites use to gain an advantage over their players.

The main purpose of our reviews is to cut through the lengthy rules, that players should read and point out the particular rules players need to pay attention too!

These reviews are to help players make informed decisions before they deposit at a particular site. Many players don’t want to read all the long and involved rules that sites post, they want to play! With that said, let me direct my attention to your post!

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This clearly shows that they have non-depositing promotions, that turns Bonus seekers into House Players! This means when a depositing player makes a wager, they are competing not only against other depositing players, but also the Free Money players If the Free Money players wins, the House keeps the money! Free Money players is a great advantage for the house and many sites exploit this policy.


Untrue the free trial bonus expires after 24 hrs as it is not a free site correct! They get sign up bonus to try out site thats it not entitled to any other bonus!!


oh yeah you completely missed the point! Any free money/Bonus/free trial is a house advantage, because they wager against the depositing players and if they win that game, that can’t cash it out. They are House Players when ever they take advantage of free play. If they play even 1 game under a free trial bonus that expires after 24 hrs, that game still favors the house because their win will be nullified!

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If you only play bingo, if you deposited $50. you need to play thru $250 to be eligitable for a cash out.


Also untrue if you dep $50 your playthrough is $50 which is 1 x dep basic maths.

Your Basic Math does not take into account the Deposit Bonus As far as I can see in their rules, they have no opt out for taking the bonus. Therefore this is the correct math:

According to their rules: a $50 deposit for a non first depositor receives a 400% Bonus! Therefore 400% of $50 = $200 add in the original deposit of $50 makes your cashout requirements $250 play thru. True! It is 1 X Bingo, but your total deposit includes the 400% bonus. How can you refute their own rules?


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if you play even one casino game, your cash out requirements above are now 12X$250=$3,000This is the big trap folks, and you agree to this when you sign up to this site! Be Savvy and don't play at this site!


also untrue 12 x $50 is $600...cmon guys get facts straight amigobingo, canadian dollar bingo and bingo australia applys these wagering rules. Maybe you should check all the sites as each one is different not just start jumping gun and slacking off by going to one site and making up the rules to match the others.


Again! Your math is wrong! You seem to have forgotten that the Bonus is added to your deposit! So who does not have their facts straight? Please point out what rules I made up? Also know that I did compare the rules of Amigo, CanadianDollar and AustraliaBingo. They are virtually the same with some very minor differences at Australia; And the fact that All deposits earn a 500% match bonus This increases the play thru, on the scenario above, to $3600. Your comments about us jumping the gun and slacking off are unfounded

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I play here and yes I get my money every Wednesday

That is quite the claim, considering what the rules state.


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 Post subject: Re: Amigo Bingo/Australiabingo.com/Canadiandollarbingo.com
PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:54 pm 
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This is what im trying to say at Amigo bingo, canadiandollarbingo and bingoaustralia you do NOT wager your bonus. They give you bonus and all you wager the 1x or the 12x is your actual deposit Not Bonus bucks. As for the other site Im not familiar with it so I am not commenting on it but the other 3 I mention your facts are wrong you dont wager bingo bux only your deposit. If you deposit $25 and only play bingo you only have to spend $25 to meet your requirement thats it. yes you get 400% in bonus money depending on your level i guess but that is not required to be wagered. So No i am not wrong and not confused in what is what So i think you should check the 3 sites i mention again and you will find your wagering comments wrong. At bingo australia it doesnt matter what your ratio is you still get chat bbs also just to let you know...I play at all 3 of these sites and cashout with ease so I should no the rules after 6yrs playing with the bingo affiliates...Payout done on time every wednesday as stated also...


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 Post subject: Re: Amigo Bingo/Australiabingo.com/Canadiandollarbingo.com
PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:40 pm 
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Great information and thank you for keeping everybody honest. Sounds like there may smoke here but who knows if there is actually a fire.


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 Post subject: Re: Amigo Bingo/Australiabingo.com/Canadiandollarbingo.com
PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:27 pm 
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Now I'm confused. Where did these facts come from in the first place? Did they come from the 3 sites that were mentioned or just generally from bingo sites?

How do we tell the difference when we are reading their policies? How do we know if they are just talking about our deposit or the deposit and the bonus as well? Does it tell you right in the rules of the bingo sites or do you have to e-mail them and ask them first?

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 Post subject: Re: Amigo Bingo/Australiabingo.com/Canadiandollarbingo.com
PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:38 pm 
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Hi PokerPrincess, welcome to BPU! The rules I posted came from the AmigoBingo.com website: http://www.amigobingo.com/rules.asp Amigo Bingo, Australiabingo.com and Canadiandollarbingo.com all have the same rules. All one has to do is LQQK to verify this.
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How do we know if they are just talking about our deposit or the deposit and the bonus as well? Does it tell you right in the rules of the bingo sites or do you have to e-mail them and ask them first?


Unethical sites post unclear rules that are often misunderstood by their players. This is the way they like it and it’s to their advantage. In this case the gotcha phrase is here:
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We provide a wide selection of games including Bingo, Slots, Video Poker, Keno and Pull Tabs. Each game has a required wagering rule that is used to determine when a player is eligible to cash out against their last deposit bonus.
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9. Wagering Rules by Game
Game Type Wagering rule
Bingo 1x
Casino Games 12x
Bingo + Casino Games 12x


Do you see how they slid in the words Deposit Bonus? oh yeah is purposely posting misleading information This is not the first time a rogue site has sent people to BPU to post against our finding, in an attempt to cast doubt on what we discovered and reported to the membership.

oh yeah twice refuted our math! Sherry and I both reviewed the rules and our math, yet oh yeah still contended it is wrong. To double check our finding, I consulted with one of our most reputable Player Watchdogs, NAVYMANS-MOM and asked her to review the rules, as they pertain to play thru.

NAVYMANS-MOM came up with the same math as I did! Enough of this smoke and mirrors crap. There is more here than meets the eye something is smelling with thebingoaffiliates.com.

This thread may get very interesting!


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 Post subject: Re: Amigo Bingo/Australiabingo.com/Canadiandollarbingo.com
PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:37 pm 
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Thank you for the welcome and thank you for clarifying this. I don't know enough about the Bingo sites to even realize that what they put in the rule as deposit bonus would be that kind of payout rule. I am finding this site extremely helpful.

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 Post subject: Re: Amigo Bingo/Australiabingo.com/Canadiandollarbingo.com
PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:18 am 
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Do you see how they slid in the words Deposit Bonus? oh yeah is purposely posting misleading information This is not the first time a rogue site has sent people to BPU to post against our finding, in an attempt to cast doubt on what we discovered and reported to the membership.


No one sent me this is the rules You guys are unreal and wrong!!!!!! No site sent me im just trying to tell u guys the truth u DO NOT HAVE TO WAGER BONUS MONEY TO CASHOUT. You wager only the deposit. Go in chat ask hosts ask the live help email whatever they will tell u same thing. I was a regular reader of bpu and i think i have been foolishing not playing at some sites because i think you guys are only steering players towards sites u work or make money off. I now understand its your way or no way if u dont like site thats it.

You have no regard for what anyone else KNOWS!! just for a few lackys that have a distaste cause something didnt go there way or they couldnt win i would say and u go by there word.

Princess go look at amigo, cad or bingo australia, ask teh players who cashout ask the hosts they will tell u try it dep then cashout see how u go for yourself min is only 25 u play bingo only then u spend 25 only if u win off the bbs thats cash that can be cashed out go see for youself these people here are honestly a joke.

It just comes down to they dont like site no one else should so they are sending people to sites they make money off.

Dont tell me that cylater doesnt refer people to sites and make money i got proof of this and one of the sites that " is no longer flavour of the month for him" he made lots off it.

i dont expect this to be printed for obvious reasons.
i wont be back to use this sites reccommendations i will try and buy before i play close my whatever it is i have here no longer needed. i am just a reg bingo player who has been around i dont go posting for sites for them i look for me but i guess doesnt matter what reg players think here


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 Post subject: Re: Amigo Bingo/Australiabingo.com/Canadiandollarbingo.com
PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:02 pm 
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Sorry you disagree with our review! Instead of ranting about so called “lackys” and whether or not this site makes money for referring players to sites, why don’t you post the proof you asked PokerPrinces to gather? All you keep saying is we have it wrong, but offer no real proof.

If you have not been sent here by the site, I apologize! We have been doing this for years and have seen all the tricks sites and our critics do in an attempt to discredit what we do. Except for your criticism of WBN, in one post, all your posts have been defending Amigo group. I have to ask what your motivation is? I’m have a hard time accepting that you just love that site and feel the need to defend it! It’s more plausible that you are either connected to them or just want us to LQQK bad.

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It just comes down to they dont like site no one else should so they are sending people to sites they make money off.


I believe I posted the rules of their site and pointed out what is unfair for the players, in their rules. Players are free to play where they wish! We do research suits and report what sites are good and which are bad and should be avoided. We do offer sites that we deem safe to play at. This does not mean that if they are not listed on BPU, they must be bad. There are many other good sites out there that are respected and honest. There are many UK sites, we could affiliate with, but the majority do not accept US Players.

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Dont tell me that cylater doesnt refer people to sites and make money i got proof of this and one of the sites that " is no longer flavour of the month for him" he made lots off it.


So if you have proof that I make money from sites, you must have access to an Affiliate Account I have/had with a site. To access this type of information, you need to be in Management. You can’t produce this proof because it would expose who you really are lol. Oddly enough I did affiliate with CanadianDollarBingo, years ago. We dropped the account when we received numerous complaints, from players, that they were being cheated!

We do keep our eye on sites we certify as honest and recommend to players. From time to time, something may change and they no longer meet our requirements for being certified and we drop them. We had a long relationship with Revenue Giants, that represent VicsBingo, BingoHll, Bingoformoney and other sites. They started to be slow paying and using unfair tactics, to stall payment to players and we ended our relationship with them. It did mean a loss of revenue, but this was a necessary action to keep our integrity in tact.

Also! We have never denied the fact that we are a Gambling Portal, and do represent some online bingo sites that meet our criteria for being fair and honest. BPU is not a free site and there are costs associated with keeping this site up and running.

We do thank our membership and readers for supporting our site.

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i dont expect this to be printed for obvious reasons.

Well you are wrong! The membership is free to make up their own minds on this issue.


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 Post subject: Re: Amigo Bingo/Australiabingo.com/Canadiandollarbingo.com
PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 11:19 pm 
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I know this issue hasn't been addressed for a few weeks, so Ii thought I would just let it be. I read through parts of it again and decided to add my opinion.

What I don't understand is how a person can say you are wrong when almost all of your information is taken directly from the Bingo site. Then come back with answers that are pretty much an opinion. If I thought your information was incorrect, I would find the correct information. I wouldn't just ask a couple of other players to see if they agree with me. I would check what was written as policy and if I couldn't find it there, I would contact the bingo site and ask them what what the truth is (assuming they would be honest). Then I could contact you and not simply say "you are wrong". I would be able to tell you why you are wrong and inform you with what is correct.

What I thought was also interest is this person kept coming back to argue their position on the issue without having anything new to back up their opinion, except that they have played there for years.

I didn't know that I had so much to say about it. For some reason, the whole thread bothered me and I needed to let it be known. In reality, I am pretty shy about posting.

I like that I am a member here. There is so much misinformation out there. I feel that this a place that I can rely on getting the truth.


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 Post subject: Re: Amigo Bingo/Australiabingo.com/Canadiandollarbingo.com
PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 7:32 pm 
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Thank you for your support gjr1961 =D> Yes! there is a lot of misinformation out there. Occasionally, we run into people like oh yeah, who try and distort the truth. But many players see through this.

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